So this idea has been tumbling around in my head for awhile now: adding an improved, tweaked version of Last Stand to the mod. It makes sense upfront, since you must already have a different -dev- version of the game when you start Elite. Adding an improved, elite version of last stand to the mix could be great. This idea would take several months to complete of course.
Last Stand, which was initially added to Dawn of War II in a patch shortly after release, has proven to be a big hit. It makes a lot of sense to release it as its own game, since it's essentially a. Dawn Of War 2 Last Stand Solo Youtube His weapon options, fittingly enough, are almost all exceptionally powerful - among the best in the game - but are all flawed in some fashion or another. The Big Shoota, for example, has insane DPS, but relies on Ork Shooting Accuracy and volume of fire, making it a poor choice against heavy armor. I agree, but this doesn't necessarily mean that he's capable of solo'ing all 20 waves of the last stand by himself. A lot depends on the skill level of the player as well. The only characters I've actually seen it done with (in replays) are the Farseer (Paychak's version) and the Chaos Sorc in Chaos Rising (with DGoS).
I have found a Retribution mod that seems fairly complete here. It's the same guy who did the DOWII Last Stand 'update'. *update* that link is dead and I cannot locate the mod anywhere so far.
As you know, only way to play the Last Stand is finding 2 players in public match. That makes playing solo hard because 2 other players have to left the game after starting it and on the Bloodied Colosseum you still have to fight with 3 doppelgangers.
I will try it out sometime today or tonight with me Last Stand homies, see what we think. I have been revisiting Last Stand a lot in the last couple months and overall I am quite versed in the mechanics and design 'under the hood' so to speak. Has anyone else given the mod version of Last Stand for Retribution a try? If so what are your thoughts? If the mod is acceptable and could be incorporated into the Elite install, that saves me a bunch of time. I am sure however that the creator of the mod needs to be contacted and permission asked etc etc., if the idea is desirable to the community in the first place I am happy to spearhead the contact work and logistics if need be. Additional to any 'updating' of Last Stand, I would like to expand on the idea for an 'Elite' version of Last Stand... in such a mode you would be able to load in your multi-player skirmish heroes and work on your build order, different tactics and micro with said hero in coop with one or two other players (2 or 3 person team practice essentially). This means you would have access to a
limited number of HQ units, for tactical choices depending on what wave you are facing and so on. A few resources could be placed on the map to boost team performance and survivability, if you can coordinate well enough to hold them. Enemy spawns would need to be somewhat sophisticated and perhaps even tailored to the heroes who are deployed, but with the updated AI coming in I am sure this can all be done. I researched Cope's tools and other resources sometime ago, but got all hung up on making a map. I have some rusty but capable code skills in these hands, and SCAR code is certainly something I can handle. Seems a matter of learning Copes Toolset most of all. If I get involved with the dev side of this, I am not making the map The map for an 'Elite' Last Stand mode would need to be twice in size to that of current Last Stand maps and still an 'arena' in function. I could make the map I am sure, but that part alone will take quite a bit of time
Dow2 Last Stand Solo Build
We have lots of great maps rolling in. I will finish my map in time, but I thought I would get this discussion rolling for now; this is a much more interesting project overall. Lots of Last Stand players would no doubt come check out the mod if we got something like this going, therein growing the Elite community further